HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-06-18 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
JUNE 18, 1996
MINUTES
The Pre-Commission meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to
order by Chairman Ronald Young at 5:30 p.m., in the downstairs Administration Building
Conference Room. Five members of the Planning and Zoning Commission were in
attendance.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION OF SCHEDULED ITEMS -
COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
Chairman Ronald Young called the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting to order
at 7:00 p.m. for the consideration of scheduled items. He stated there were five members
of the Planning and Zoning Commission present. Commissioners Bright and Zahn were
absent. Furthermore, the agenda for this meeting had been properly posted in
accordance with applicable law.
MEMBERS & STAFF PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT
Chairman Ronald Young Nancy Bright
Keith Eggers George Zahn
Robert McMillon
Joy Shuler
Billy Owens
Bo Bass, Deputy Director of Development
Paul Kruckemeyer, City Engineer
Andrea Baxter, Assistant City Engineer
Rod Tyler, City Planner
Barbara Chambers, Development Supervisor
Linda Lux, Staff Secretary
VISITORS PRESENT:
Tom Cox, Director of Economic Development
Walter Nelson
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION: The Pledge of Allegiance was given by
Commissioner Owens and the invocation was given by Commissioner Shuler.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Eggers made the motion to approve the minutes of the June 4, 1996,
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting as presented and the motion was seconded
by Commissioner McMillon. The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Commissioners Eggers, McMillon, Owens, Shuler, Young
Nays: None
The motion carried.
Chairman Young stated, if there were no objections, he recommended the consideration
of Agenda Item II as Agenda Item I.
ITEM I. LAND PLAN #P-96-10 - MAIN CENTRE ADDITION
Request of Walter Nelson for approval of a Land Plan for 3.114 acres out
of the J.P. Hanford Survey, A-711; located on the west side of North Main
Street and north of Brawn's
Bo Bass, Deputy Director of Development, introduced Land Plan #P-96-10 and stated the
request was for an Ultimate Car Wash. He stated the Development Review Committee
(DRC) had reviewed the Land Plan and found it to have some inconsistencies with the
intent of the code relative to water, sewer, sanitary sewer and easements. Therefore, the
DRC recommended denial. The purpose of the Land Plan is to illustrate how the
applicant intends to provide the infrastructure to serve the site.
Paul Kruckemeyer, City Engineer, stated the Engineering Department's DRC comments
reflected the water main along the north line of Lot 4 should be extended to have a loop
water system to the fire hydrant and this was not shown. They had requested a 20' utility
easement be placed along the northern property line. They had asked that the fire
hydrant be placed on Phase II and according to the applicant's response letter, they did
not feel like this was a fair requirement. He stated he had asked the applicant to show
that Lot 4 was developable, especially to some of the radius for fire protection. Mr.
Kruckemeyer's office had still not received the information. He also stated the applicant
is asking for three driveways and the Engineering Department is asking for two because
of spacing. He stated there had not been enough adequate information provided for Lot
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4. Mr. Kruckemeyer and the Engineering Department recommended denial of this
request.
Mr. Walter Nelson, P.E., 308 N. W. 2nd Street, represented the owner and proposed
developer of the car wash. He stated the Commissioners had tabled the Site Plan at the
previous P&Z meeting until they could review the Land Plan. He then submitted a copy
of the Land Plan. Mr. Nelson stated he did not receive his DRC comments until Thursday
and he was out of the office until later in the afternoon. He could not reach his client until
Saturday morning in order to discuss the comments. He felt he did not have enough time
to prepare the proposals for the Land Plan. He stated, approximately two months ago,
Fire Marshal Michael Logan discussed the layout of the fire hydrant and he was 362'from
the fire hydrant to the rear corner of that building. He stated that Fire Marshal Logan told
him he was only 12' and it looked like the applicant had made it. Now it is being
requested that a fire hydrant be installed on the north side of the mini-warehouse tract
before the applicant can build the detail shop. He stated if the fire marshal required
another fire hydrant before the building permit, he would do it. Mr. Nelson discussed the
dead end main request. He stated he felt his design met the code and he did not have
any place to loop the water line. Mr. Nelson stated he did not know that berms were not
allowed at the back side of detention ponds. He stated he did not know what to do about
this situation. Mr. Nelson informed the Commissioners he did not know what was going
to be put on Lot 3. When he knows what will be going on Lot 3, the size of the lot will
be changed and whatever is left will be Lot 4. In order to design Lot 4, the size of Lot
3 would have to be set now. He stated he had not had the time to do a grading plan
since he received the DRC comments. He stated he was told by Engineering if they were
going to develop Lot 4 prior to the SMSA tract developing, then they would have to install
the force main under the pavement. Mr. Nelson stated the entire purpose of the Land
Plan was to build the car wash. The other site is zoned C-2 which is adjacent to the car
wash and staff is asking to prove they are both accessible with access easements. He
felt it is was essential to have a driveway to the second pad site or they will never be
developed. Mr. Nelson stated his main concern at this meeting was the site plan. If the
site plan is not approved the contract will expire. If the Land Plan is tabled or denied, Mr.
Nelson stated he would have time to work with staff.
Commissioner Eggers had questions regarding detention ponds always being the last
thing that is built by a developer. He felt this concern should be addressed at the
beginning of a development since there are drainage problems. Mr. Nelson stated he did
not know whether the rest of the addition was the same C Factor as the Fitzgerald
Addition. However, if the Engineering Department requires him to build the detention
pond at this time, he stated he would do it. He stated when the dirt work was being done
they would not touch Lot 4 and probably no more than 20' into Lot 3. Mr. Nelson stated
he felt he was pushed hard on the design of the mini-warehouse and on Lot 4.
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Commissioner McMillon stated he did not feel comfortable supporting the Land Plan until
the details of the case were satisfactory to city staff.
Commissioner Owens commended city staff on their comments and recommendations
regarding this case. He informed the applicant that the Commissioners had informed city
staff they did not want to look at future Land Plans unless they contained drainage and
engineering. He asked Mr. Nelson if he was willing to state that he would comply and
meet all the requirements set forth by city staff and if not, he was not willing to discuss
the case any further. He also stated that Mr. Nelson had not addressed the retaining wall
that was discussed at the tabling of the site plan. Commissioner Owens agreed with
Commissioners McMillon and Shuler that the applicant had not furnished enough
information regarding Lot 4 and he could not support the request.
Mr. Nelson stated he could not commit to the final Engineering design of the mini-
warehouses.
Commissioner Shuler stated she would like to address the aesthetics of the building at
the appropriate time.
Paul Kruckemeyer, City Engineer, stated the force main was not requested by the
Engineering Department. He stated a force main was very particular to a design criteria
so it would be impossible for the applicant to accurately design it at this time. He stated
he could not imagine anyone requiring the applicant to do this because you do not have
the same safety factor in the design of a force main as in a gravity fed line. Also,
Engineering had never requested Lot 4 be in a final design product.
Commissioner McMillon stated with the constraints of the property, the drainage, the size
of Lot 3 and several other concerns, he recommended denial of the Land Plan.
Commissioner McMillon made the motion to deny Land Plan #P-96-10 Main Centre
Addition and Commissioner Eggers seconded the motion. The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Commissioners McMillon, Eggers, Owens, Shuler, Young
Nays: None
The motion carried to deny Land Plan #P-96-10.
ITEM II. FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SITE PLAN #96-11-SP - MAIN CENTRE
ADDITION
Request of Walter Nelson for approval of a Site Plan for the construction of
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a car wash within the C-2 (Community Business) zoning district; located on
the west side of North Main Street and north of Braum's
Bo Bass, Deputy Director of Development, introduced the Site Plan and stated the case
was tabled at the last meeting. The Development Review Committee had previously
reviewed the case and found it was substantially in compliance with the Unified
Development Code.
Commissioner Owens made the motion to bring the item off the table and the motion was
seconded by Commissioner Eggers. The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Commissioners Owens, Eggers, Shuler, McMillon, Young
Nays: None
The motion carried.
Commissioner Shuler stated the elevations showed a concrete block building and she
would like to see the building dressed up since it was located on Main Street.
Mr. Walter Nelson stated since he was not the architect, he could not answer that
question. However, he stated the Development Review Committee and the P&Z
Commissioners did not make comments regarding the elevations in previous discussions.
Commissioner Owens stated the minutes of the previous meeting reflected a discussion
on split face brick. Commissioner Shuler stated that some type of pitched roof would be
more appealing.
Mr. Nelson stated no changes had been made to the Site Plan from two weeks ago
except for some lines that were left off of the drawings.
Commissioner Owens had questions regarding fuel tanks and whether the car wash
would have a full service gas station. He stated he was opposed to any full service
and/or limited service because of surrounding problems with traffic blockage.
Commissioner McMillon concurred with Commissioner Owens. Chairman Young stated
the 10,000 gallon tank would be underground.
Mr. Nelson stated the owner of the property currently operates a mobile car wash
business and he desires to get out of the mobile business. He wants to operate a
business that allows cars to come to an establishment instead of him traveling to the
cars. He stated the ten parking spaces in front of the building were wipe down areas.
Chairman Young also shared the other Commissioners concerns regarding the tanker
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trucks coming in to dispense the fuel into the tanks and maneuvering in and out of Main
Street. Mr. Nelson stated the original plans were to make the lot a little larger and was
told he would not need a Land Plan. After it progressed the Land Plan was required.
The gas pumps are located at the vacuum canopy and are not solely for cars to enter/exit
for gas only. The Commissioners compared the concept to the Aladdin Car Wash.
Mr. Nelson stated up until the previous P&Z meeting where the Site Plan was tabled, he
was under the impression he could proceed with the car wash without a Land Plan being
approved. Rod Tyler, City Planner, stated several weeks ago a conversation took place
and the applicant was informed the degree of expansion on the existing lot would
determine if a Land Plan would be necessary. The expansion was significant enough to
require the Land Plan. Mr. Nelson stated to the Commissioners that this was the reason
the Land Plan was so far behind the Site Plan.
Commissioner Owens stated he agreed with staff's concerns and comments regarding
this case. However, he was not against this request solely based on staff's
recommendations. He stated he did not feel this project was the highest and best use
for the property nor did the Commissioners have enough information to make a positive
decision. He stated a car wash was not what they were after on this property. He felt
the applicant needed something to trade off with the City such as a brick building, utilities
coming in from the rear and things that would not normally be done with this type of
project. He stated the type of business he was looking for would be something he could
look down Main Street and not just see a concrete, brick, lube place, water running off
type of business.
Mr. Nelson stated, if the same lot configuration were to develop into a retail business,
they could build their structure 20' off of Main Street and before his client even began
construction they have given the City of Euless 25' of right of way dedication all across
the property. He stated the ordinance would require a commercial business to landscape
15% of the front yard and there would be a total of 405 square feet of landscaping
required, 3 trees required and 9 shrubs required. They have committed to 13 trees, 67
shrubs instead of 9 shrubs and 2,260 square feet of landscaping instead of the 405
square feet. Mr. Nelson stated these factors should be considered into the trade offs in
which the Commissioners discussed since they were way over on the landscaping
requirements
Chairman Young stated the Commissioners needed to consider if this car wash was a
permitted use in this zoning category (staff stated it was) and does it comply with the
Unified Development Code (staff and DRC stated it was consistent with zoning and
subdivision regulations). He stated the Commissioners should not try to use the Site Plan
requirements as a zoning mechanism.
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Commissioner Owens made the motion to deny #96-11-SP for the following reason: 1.)
the applicant did not present a case of meeting all of the requirements in the zoning
ordinance. Commissioner Eggers seconded the motion.
Commissioner McMillon stated if the case meets all of the ordinances of the City and if
staff recommends the project is within property zoning he wanted to know what the basis
for denial would be.
Commissioner Owens stated the reason in his motion to deny included the twelve points
of review. He stated he felt that meeting all of the minimum requirements was in the
eyes of the beholder and he did not believe the applicant met all of the minimum
requirements.
Commissioner Shuler stated she did not believe the case was ready for approval the way
it was presented to the Commission. However, she asked if the Commissioners would
consider approving the case with no further progression to be made until all requirements
of the staff were satisfied and presented to the Commission in a Land Plan they could
approve.
Commissioner Owens stated he had asked the applicant those questions and the
applicant stated he could not commit to anything else.
1111.
Commissioner McMillon made reference to the letter to the Commissioners from Randy
Byers, Director of Public Works and Development, that DRC found most issues of
concern to be adequately addressed and certified the case for placement on the agenda.
Chairman Young stated he was in agreement with the Commissioners and he too would
rather see something other than a car wash go in on this property. However, his
disagreement was using the Site Plan denial as a means to stop it.
Commissioner Owens withdrew his original motion. He made the motion to deny #96-11-
SP. Commissioner Eggers seconded the motion to deny #96-11-SP.
Commissioners Eggers and McMillon agreed the reason for denial was the Site Plan was
no further along than when it was tabled at the last meeting. Commissioner McMillon felt
it was too premature for Mr. Nelson and stated due to the sensitivity of the property and
drainage concerns, he did not have enough information to address his concerns.
The vote was as follows:
Ayes: Commissioners Owens, Eggers, Shuler, McMillon
Nays: Commissioner Young
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The motion carried to deny #96-11-SP.
REPORTS:
Commissioner Owens discussed the Texas 10 Zoning Ordinance and the Commissioners
as being the initiating body. He would like to see the Commission make a formal
presentation to City Council on Texas 10. He questioned whether or not the Commission
wanted the Texas 10 Zoning Ordinance to be applied. He stated the City of Hurst had
began applying the Texas 10 ordinance on car lots on Hwy 10. He recommended the
Commission instruct the staff the apply Texas 10. Chairman Young stated this could be
discussed at the joint meeting with City Council.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:35 P.M.
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