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TRINITY RAILWAY EXPRESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Thursday,November 19,2015
The Trinity Railway Express Advisory Committee convened at 12:00 pm on Thursday,
November 19, 2015 at the Intermodal Transportation Center Community Room, 1001 Jones
Street, Fort Worth, Texas. The following Committee members were present: Carter Burdette,
Mike Cheney, Mark Enoch,Andre McEwing, Ken Newell and Rick Stopfer.
Others present were: Gary Thomas, Paul Ballard, Bob Baulsir, Tim McKay, Maureen McCole,
Monica Fowler, Joe Costello, Tom Tulley, Nathaniel Morgan, Harlene Kennedy, Detra
Whitmore,Shannon Hergenrader and Charles Chambers.
1. Call to Order
Mr. Stopfer called the Trinity Railway Express (TRE) Advisory Committee meeting to order
at 12:00 pm.
2. Approval of Minutes: August 18, 2015
A motion was made to approve the August 18, 2015 Trinity Railway Express Advisory
Committee minutes. The motion was seconded and the minutes were unanimously approved.
3. *Safety Briefing
Mr. Tulley, Chief Operating Officer/Chief Mechanical Officer, provided a safety briefing
informing the group of where to exit, where to meet, who will contact 911 and who could
perform CPR in case of emergency.
• Safety
4. *TRE Operations Report
Mr. Tulley briefed the committee as follows (presentation on file in the Office of Board Support):
• Monthly Ridership—July—October
• OTP and Special Events
• Special Events
Mr. Cheney stated that Mr. Tulley reported that there was an uptick in ridership but the quarterly
report that was distributed shows a decline. Mr.Tulley replied that it is an uptick in the sense that
over the entire year, ridership was averaging about 7,100 daily, and it is now up to 7,800 to 8,200
coming into the new fiscal year. Fuel prices have leveled out and after the initial drop off when
the fuel prices were low, ridership is starting to come back.
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5. *TRE Quarterly Financial Information for Period Ending June 30,2015
Mr. Costello distributed the THE Quarterly Financial Information Report (on file in the Office of
Board Support) and stated that these financials are proforma; they are not audited, although both
DART and FWTA's TRE finances are audited. He reviewed the information within the
document. He stated that new for the next quarter, the report will compare budget figures to
actual figures.
Mr. McEwing asked what the farebox recovery ratio is. Mr. Thomas replied that it is in the 26-
27% range.
Mr. Cheney asked why purchased transportation was down almost $1 million. Mr. Costello
replied that fuel is included in that figure and fuel prices have continued to run lower than the
budget.
Mr. Enoch asked that in looking at the Summary of TRE Assets page, why is there a decrease
from the original cost to book value under "Land". Ms. McCole replied that as part of the
DART/T agreement on the Cotton Belt,FWTA signed over their interest in the Madill.
6. *Positive Train Control (PTC)Project Update
Ms. McCole briefed the Committee as follows(on file in the Office of Board Support):
• PTC Update
• PTC Spectrum and Radios
Ms. McCole stated that the amount of the annual lease payment is approximately $10,000 a
year, if the spectrum is leased through PTC220. We also received the radio spectrum report
last week that was commissioned by PTC220 for the Dallas/Fort Worth region, which
confirmed that the radio towers on the THE corridor are sufficient to support PTC, so that will
reduce the estimate. Also received in the report was confirmation that the two towers planned
for the TEX Rail project would be sufficient as well.
• PTC Challenges
• Status of Congressional Action - Surface Transportation Extension Act of 2015
Mr. Burdette asked if there is anyone from the federal government trying to centralize this
project so that all of the various rail operations in the United States can not only get on a
compatible system, but on a single system. Ms. McCole replied that it was left it up to the
industry. The Class I railroads have taken the lead for the interoperability portion and have
done the majority of the design and research across the country. Mr. Burdette asked to what
extent is the FRA trying to steer everybody into a single interoperable system? Mr. Burdette
added that TRE is spending time and money getting these systems together, and he was
concerned that the THE could go down one path and then find out later that everyone else is
on a different path. Ms. McCole stated that the agencies are coordinating with BNSF, UP,
and Amtrak on PTC, and BNSF and UP have been gracious in sharing lessons learned, so the
agencies can hopefully avoid some of the pitfalls. The groups are working together to make
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sure everything is interoperable. It is also part of our systems integrator contract and is a
deliverable as well.
Mr. Stopfer asked if the groups are working together because of relationships, or is there a
contract/agreement in place with the different entities. Is there any value in UP and
DART/TRE entering into an agreement,that it is known that anything owned or operated as a
combined group would be interoperable, rather than someone else that could come in with
something different that wanted to operate on our corridor. Ms. McCole replied that there
would have to be dual systems in place if a railroad wanted to use a different system other
than the I-ETMS, which would be cost prohibitative to those entities. It's very unique
situation, especially with the Class I's, as although they are competitors, they joined together
to ensure that all of the protocols and procedures for interoperability are agreed upon. For
example, it makes sure that the operating systems have to be within two software versions, so
there are some stringent requirements for this. Mr. Stopfer stated that his concern was that
there are agreements in place allowing the agencies to do this. Ms. McCole replied yes, that
staff is currently operating under nondisclosure agreements, but are working towards getting
full-fledged agreements with them for spectrum and radios. They are also willing to share
their safety plans, which have already been vetted with the FRA. In some areas, there will be
some cost avoidance since they are sharing their information.
Mr. Burdette stated that the PTC system will be one that prohibits people from operating on
the corridor if they are not compatible? Mr. McKay replied yes, unless they are in compliance
of the upgrade versions and we aren't, then that would get our attention quickly. It would
work both ways.
Mr. McEwing asked if the configuration management is an additional scope of work, or
would that be a training component? Ms. McCole added that the configuration management
is part of the system integrator's scope of work and has also been part of a good practice that
is instituted under the new operations and maintenance contract.
7. *Reeional Commuter Rail Operations and Maintenance Contract Update
Ms.McCole briefed the Committee as follows(on file in the Office of Board Support):
• O&M Contract
S. *Capital Projects Update
Ms. McCole introduced Nathaniel Morgan, AVP Commuter Rail, who briefed the committee
as follows:
• Valley View Project
o Project Status/Next Steps
o Accelerated Bridge Construction(ABC)
o Bear Creek ABC
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Mr. McEwing asked about the advertisement of the bids. Mr. Morgan replied that the
advertisement will come out through DART procurement. Mr. Enoch asked if CH2M Hill
were the buyers of URS. Mr. Morgan replied no, that was AECOM. CH2M Hill and their
bridge designers have done a good job thus far in developing the ABC plans.
Mr. McEwing asked if there was a contract for the 2nd engineer of the existing contract. Ms.
McCole replied that the contract with the first engineer of record had expired, which
precipitated bringing a 2nd engineer of record on to review the design. Mr. McEwing asked if
in the contract,there was an option for the 2nd engineer. Mr.McKay replied that it was almost
five years ago when it was designed the first time, and whenever something is designed and
sits on the shelf for that long, then someone needs to be hired to give an independent look.
Age of the design, opportunities to combine the two projects since both were funded, and the
marketplace were the three factors used.
• TRE Bridge Replacement
• Stemmons Bridge
Ms.McCole briefed the Committee as follows:
• C wa Cemetery Road
• Ta • n
• oiling Stoc
• Reimbursable Projects
9. Selection of TRE Advisory Committee Chair
Mr. Newell made a motion to nominate Mr. Burdette. Mr. McEwing seconded the motion
and it was unanimously approved.
10. Identification of Future Agenda Items
Mr. Stopfer requested an update regarding the high speed rail project, since TxDOT is
looking at our right-of-way as an option,there should be some input from this organization as
well. Mr. Thomas stated that staff will ask TxDOT to brief the Committee, since they are
doing the preliminary engineering for the segment between Fort Worth and Dallas. He was
on a panel with Mr. Bill Meadows and he believes that Mr. Meadows would be happy to talk
about what their Committee is doing, until December 31, which is when that Committee
dissolves, unless TxDOT extends it.
Mr. Enoch commented that in the minutes from August 8, 2016 that there was a request by
someone to find out what increased fares would be gathered if Herzog handled fare
enforcement, would that cover the cost of Herzog? Ms. McCole stated that she could guess
that the money could be recouped for the cost of Herzog. Mr. Enoch stated 1.23% is a low
ratio of fare evaders and they all will not be caught with fare enforcement. He stated that he
does not see how having Herzog provide fare enforcement would pay for itself. Mr. McKay
added that the other factor to consider would be that if HTSI handles fare enforcement across
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